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Post by OriolesGM on Jul 10, 2015 4:36:14 GMT
Orioles Send:
Juan Cintron (CF)(AAA) - AZ
Bud Norris (SP)(ML) -Atl
John Lamb (1B)(R) - ATL
Dave Givens (CF)(S-A) - AZ
Drew smyly sp ml az
mitch brown(SP)(ML)-ATL
Kyle brown(3B) (AAA)-ATL
DBacks Send:
CJ Edwards(SP)(ML) - Balt
Mark Hahn(2B)(R) - Atl
Braves Send:
Mike Kickham (SP)(ML) - Balt
Ignacio Geronimo (RP)(ML) - AZ
P Leandro Linares(AA) -az
P Jim Voyles(A) -az
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Post by Royals & Braves GM on Jul 10, 2015 4:49:23 GMT
Orioles Send: Juan Cintron (CF)(AAA) - AZ Bud Norris (SP)(ML) -Atl John Lamb (1B)(R) - ATL Dave Givens (CF)(S-A) - AZ Drew smyly sp ml az mitch brown(SP)(ML)-ATL Kyle brown(3B) (AAA)-ATL DBacks Send: CJ Edwards(SP)(ML) - Balt Mark Hahn(2B)(R) - Atl Braves Send: Mike Kickham (SP)(ML) - Balt Ignacio Geronimo (RP)(ML) - AZ P Leandro Linares(AA) -az P Jim Voyles(A) -az Braves Confirm. --- This is the Final Deal , after being reworked a few times. |
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Post by Frank-PadresGM on Jul 11, 2015 0:25:47 GMT
Those extra guys aren't awful, but when you wind up with 2 of the best starters in the league and the guys you gave up are a potential (1) 5 star, (1) 2.5, (3) 2, a fragile 29yr old 2 star and a 33 year old 0.5 star? Another thing about the trade, teams that are rebuilding don't want a 33 year old Norris or a "Fragile" 29 year old Smyly. On top of it all the intra-Gm aspect of this goes against all of the discussions we have had about keeping intr-GM trades rare and small in scale. For the good of the league, and given that there is considerable opposition to this trade I am vetoing this trade. My suggestion is to get AZ completely out of this, if Baltimore and Atlanta want to make a one sided deal it falls in to a little different category.
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Post by OriolesGM on Jul 11, 2015 0:59:03 GMT
Where are you getting those potentials from frank? Is your scout going to be what we base every trade off of?
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Post by Frank-PadresGM on Jul 11, 2015 1:19:45 GMT
Anyone have a scout that has the players going from the O's rated significantly differently than my scout? I think one thing I am sure of is the age and injury status for Norris and Smyly.
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Post by OriolesGM on Jul 11, 2015 1:27:59 GMT
My scout has lamb as a 4 star. He is rated as number 40 something spect in the league
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Post by OriolesGM on Jul 11, 2015 1:35:28 GMT
Norris is just a pitcher, I don't care if I keep him. Smyly is popular in az and will win some games with my current rotation to bring in the fans and when my youngsters are ready he will be gone so I can spend. On top of that I thought we turned down injury frequency. Frankly it shouldn't be any of your business how I'm running my teams and how I want to rebuild a team. You run your two teams and let me run mine
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Post by Frank-PadresGM on Jul 11, 2015 2:12:45 GMT
(1) Since I am the commish I not only should look at all trades that anyone questions because it potentially can ruin the league but it is my responsibility
(2) You certainly seem to have had the need to comment on every trade coming down the pike in the last couple of weeks
(3) We both know where this trade started with needing to use AZ to get Kickham from Atlanta leaving both Atl & AZ getting raped.
(4) Do the ratings from your scouts or Atlanta's help your last argument. Looks like my scout actually liked them about the same or maybe better, except for some reason Baltimore's scout likes Lamb
(5) So while Kickham plus a few other guys are leaving Atl, look at what they get, plus they get Hahn from AZ
(6) Everyone knows the 100 top player list is bullshit because it is OOTP scouting which is less accurate than our guys are
Baltimore Atlanta
Scout Scout
Norris 0.5 star 1/2 star
Lamb 4 Pot 1 Pot
M.Brown 1.5 Pot 1.5 Pot
K.Brown 2 Pot 1.5 Pot
AZ
Scout
Cintron 5 Pot 5 Pot
Givens 2.5 Pot 2.5 Pot
Smyly 2 stars 2.5 stars
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Post by Cubs and Blue Jays GM on Jul 11, 2015 3:24:55 GMT
My scout has Lamb as a 1* as well.
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